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Why does nobody make the tablet I want?
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andrewducker
On my DRM rant despotliz posted about Marvel Unlimited. And I'd happily pay $10/month for access to 13,000 comics - it seems like perfect way of consuming them actually - not having to worry about whether a particular comic is worth $x, but being able to try things out, read whole runs, etc. And not needing massive amounts of storage to keep them in.

But...I'm not reading them on a latop/PC. Both of those have landscape screens, and the PC screen isn't going to sit comfortably in my lap. I want something tablet shaped.

But I don't want a 10" screen. I've read comics on a 10" screen, and you either read a bit of the page at a time (frustrating) or you read it at a size 10-20% smaller than print. Which makes it harder to enjoy the art, and harder to read the text. Frankly, I like the Absolute presentation for comic art - I want my comics blown up to a larger size, not shrunk down to a smaller one.

So I went looking for larger tablets. After all, you can buy phones in a variety of sizes - if I can buy a 5.3" phone, surely someone has made a tablet that's larger than 10"?

But so far I'm having no luck. There's _talk_ about 12" and 13" tablets. Toshiba seems to have had a lot of build up for an "Excite 13" - but there's no sign of it ever actually having been released in the US, let alone the UK. Archos _did_ release the FamilyPad, but apparently botched it with an incredibly slow processor and awful screen.

If anyone sees one, do let me know...



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If they make an Android app for it, I'll probably sign back up to it. But I'll likely do so via 'gifting' it to myself from another email address or giving someone the money and getting them to do it, because I utterly detest their non-opt-outable automatic renewal.

I hadn't actually realised they didn't have an Android app. What the hell???

Android™ app coming soon!

I'm wondering if they've actually gotten around to setting up a desktop app for it, as opposed to just running it badly within Flash in your browser.

They only launched the iOS one last week, I think Android is promised for the future. I presume they've just got round to realising that this could be a much bigger money-spinner if the interface weren't shit.

Would a 10" tablet with amazing screen compensate for the smallness? I'm fine reading on my Android tablet, but I made the mistake of comparing it with a retina ipad, and it was significantly nicer.

Nope. I've used an iPad and it's prettier, but it's still too small. I'm not replacing comics with something smaller than them!

Yes, but £1000. Whereas I'd expect a tablet to be nearer half that. And lighter.

And also - I refer you to my point above about laptops being generally landscape rather than portrait, (and not doing rotation terribly well, in my experience).

Dedicated tablet PCs, or their convertable varieties, generally handle orientation quite well and I enjoy using them a lot... but they are full PCs with all the baggage attending, including PC-like prices and the higher battery drain from driving the thirstier CPU. There are some excellent convertables and slates but the ones that catch my eye run the CAD $900-1500 range.

-- Steve quite enjoyed his 7" slates, but alas the temptation of carrying one everywhere put some undue wear-and-tear on them and they broke down after 5 and 3 years respectively.

PS: I'm sorely tempted to pick up a Microsoft Surface Pro or Razor Edge this summer; both are Win8 11" dockable slates, but be advised both are in the above price range.

Edited at 2013-03-17 01:57 pm (UTC)

A local advertisement here shows a 11.6" HP X2 convertible laptop on sale for $600, and 2 other 11.6" Windows 8 tablets for $550 and $600.

Making a tablet with a 81/2 x 11 screen would seem like a no brainer.

Ive seen an Archos 13 inch tablet at the airport in Frankfurt, but never in the UK.
And I could probably get hold of an Excite 13, if its on sale anywhere..


If you could have a look and see whether it still is (and how much) I'd appreciate it!

My Europe contact says Excite 13 will be released this summer. he doesnt have a date yet.

Cheers. There's no rush - I'll look forward to seeing what it's like when it ships!

That's what I was coming in to recommend. It's expensive, but the specs make it sound worth it--that's a laptop, not a tablet.

Battery life is gonna suck, though, also based on specs. It's heavy. It's thick. That's not much of a surprise, again, based on specs. I'd have to plump for a solid state hard drive to cut down on weight.

But none of this matters until the Android app is released. :(

18" seems larger than would comfortably sit on my lap. (And the price is higher than I'm comfortable with too - possibly because it's also a PC!)

As I said just above this comment: Too big, too expensive.


If it wasn't trying to be a PC as well, then the cost would almost certainly drop a lot. And then I'd be tempted to at least try it out. But 18" is almost certainly too big to sit on my lap.

Ah, that's what I get for commenting at 3:30am without my glasses :D

Yeah, $899 is what I'd expect an 18" Windows 8 tablet to cost. (I was a little surprised about how cheap it is, actually.) They are computers, and after all, an iPad with 1/4th the capacity runs at $799. We may see them get cheaper in a few iterations, though, if the Windows 8 tablet stuff succeeds.

It looks like Toshiba canceled the Excite 13, sadly. All the others I can find are convertible ultrabooks, which are more expensive (although, price excepted, the Lenovo Yoga 13 looks pretty sweet).

Edited at 2013-03-18 10:55 am (UTC)

The Yoga is nice (I've played with one). The keyboard, because it's so light, feels a little wobbly. But other than that it feels perfectly solid.

Give me an Android tablet in that configuration and I'll be very happy!

Samsung also had a larger tablet running, at 11.8 inches. But it's also not seen the light of day. I actually wonder if Android's standardizing on 7 / 10 for tablets (rather than the market being shy to move away from them). Would be kind of sad if that was true.

It would be. If Samsung can expand to a 5" phone, then why not a larger tablet.

You'd think there'd be _some_ market in a 13" screen. Or even a 15" one with optional keyboard - to replace 15" laptops!

Short answer: because you and I are not a big enough market segment to target.
Patient answer: the flurry of form-factor experiments going on right now is one of the most important things going on in the whole area. What sorts of functionality* do you combine in a package? What size package?? How do you put 12 pounds into a 5 pound sack and still be able to find everything?
For myself, I have no problem with waiting a few years, and leapfrogging to just behind the bleeding edge. That's probably most cost-effective for me. (Cost in retraining as well as cash)

* I'm between cell contracts right now. I just renewed with my carrier for another two years, but I want a phone I own, and haven't bought it yet. (I will some time this week.) So at exactly 102 weeks old, the speaker on my phone came unconnected; I can talk to someone but can't hear them. I have never thought about the "Speaker" functionality -- my phone does conference call type sound. I hadn't really thought about the fact that there are (at least?) TWO speakers in my little phone.